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this is somewhere in the skies the

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welcome to somewhere in the skies I'm

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your host Ryan Sprague this week I pull

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a wonderful conversation out of the

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vault over at rogue planet featuring

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author and space historian Amy Shira

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Tito Amy is a Canadian American author

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popular science writer spaceflight

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historian youtuber and podcaster she's

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best known for writing the book breaking

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the chains of gravity and for her

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YouTube channel vintage space today we

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talk all about how she first got

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interested in space history her thoughts

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on NASA first private space exploration

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and of course which had a little about

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UFOs in some strange cases she's come

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across in a research I hope you enjoy

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Amy thanks for joining us today I know

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it's early so we really appreciate it

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yeah no worries at all I'm very happy to

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be here happy to be talking to you so

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you know we always kind of have to start

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with the origin story some of our

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listeners might not be familiar with

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your work when did your interest in

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space history and exploration

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when did it really start it's really too

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bad that this is audio because I have a

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great visual for this question because

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it is actually my most frequently asked

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question um because you know I'm a girl

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so why do I know about space I was I was

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seven and I think I can't member if I

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was assigned it or if I picked it but I

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did a project on Venus for my second

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grade science project and you know you

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have those little kids face books that

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give you like cartoons of planets in

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fact some stuff when I was just obsessed

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with the fact that Venus you can see it

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in the sky but it was like the earth

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turned to inside-out and spinning

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backwards and on fire and I was like

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that's so cool so I had all these books

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and in one of them there was a little

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cartoon of two men standing on moon in

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front of a lunar module just like oh

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wait wait people walked on the moon why

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was I not informed because I'm from

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Canada where there is no NASA and we

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don't talk about NASA and astronauts all

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the time so I just became obsessed with

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like wanting to know how and why they

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did it and like like any big technology

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rooted in Cold War

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the question that the answer gets bigger

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and bigger the more you ask so it's just

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it's just this like childhood

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fascination about Apollo that's kind of

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that's awesome I couldn't think of a

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better origin story I'm the luckiest

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nerd ever I just get to be I actually

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want to get new business cards printed

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they just say professional space history

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nerd right right yeah I mean yeah and

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yourself in sort of this space history

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niche and I guess sort of run us through

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how that started and how it was sort of

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navigating your way which which through

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kind of like the UFO field is definitely

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considered a boys club

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definitely a boys club I started by

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accident in a lot of ways I am I

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finished my master's degree me and hated

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thoughts on academia but I just was not

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a fan of like trying to write things to

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impress an old guard of men who weren't

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really interested in space stuff but

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that's what I self specialized in in my

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history of science fields so I actually

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not for work because there's nothing

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really intriguing to me but I started a

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blog it's like a way to play around with

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the space history stuff that I was still

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having so much fun with just having

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year and then do a PhD and then be in

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academic because I didn't know what else

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blog took off in like four months and

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articles and asking me to write for them

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directly so it was really just kind of

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by accident but I became a writer like a

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journalist a space journalist with a hit

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in space history and that ended up

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spinning off into the YouTube channel

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because some people are visual and don't

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the GNAT check off because YouTube

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actually like took notice of me and and

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wall and seeing what sticks and a lot of

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things seem to be sticking and it's kind

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of amazing and I'm super lucky about it

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and then it is that super weird thing

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that like I am in this nebulous space

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where like as much as I research more

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like I have a bookshelf that would rival

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most professors offices but I you know

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because I'm not in the academic world

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like the old guard of spades history

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doesn't really like me because I don't

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do it the way that they do it but at the

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same time I think it's so much more

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important to do things for like trade

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publications where people actually read

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it as opposed to not so it is that weird

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thing we're like you know not only am i

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know my the people oh the valence would

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be my peers don't really like it's also

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things like much easier than I am that

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people don't really believe that I do

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what I do and like I go to conferences

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and people are like oh so who's white

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for you and I'm like no I'm giving the

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talk you know I I will be standing next

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to a male friend and then the you know

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so so what are you speaking on and

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they'll say well I'm actually just here

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because I'm a fan she's the one giving

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the hop it's like yeah it is very very

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weird but I honestly just kind of like

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keep my head down and just like do my

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thing you know the old guard

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you know while we we take a lot from

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them and we sort of build off of that

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you got to shake things up every once in

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a while and you're definitely doing that

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and you did mention your blog could you

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tell us a little about the blog and how

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vintage space came to be yeah vintage

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vintage space aside a few incarnations

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over the years I'm so sad that pops I'd

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popular science it just like people know

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that they're like oh cool I'm like yeah

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people are like oh you're a blogger yeah

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it really just started out it's like my

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little Internet baby to like engage in

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my own stuff and just kind of have a

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space to play around with ideas and and

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share things and just kind of work on my

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own writing style and it's evolved over

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the time and like yeah it's just it's

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bit it's a little over six years old

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which feels weird to have a blog

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birthday but I do and I do track it's

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it's gross but ya know that's the blog

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so it's not a very interesting story now

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that I say it out loud we all have but

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like you said the the YouTube channel

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just rocks up so many hits and yeah like

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I literally started this because NASA

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has so many good pictures and people

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don't necessarily want to read a 1,500

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coming right out of academia that's how

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long they used to be I decide to see if

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what's the iMovie like the the

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hornies videos are horrible and like I

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realized that if I write the blog post

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before I do the video then all the ideas

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talk at my camera and it's much more

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candid and much more natural and as soon

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that really out yeah it's just like this

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really like and that's awesome I wrote

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messy desk but like I had a hundred

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thousand subscribers recently Wow

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which is awesome that's like a huge

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milestone for like a tiny little you

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day-to-day basis like doing this in my

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apartment and I think I gave something

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like sixty eight thousand subscribers

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this year to hit that mark I'm like that

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when I stopped to look that I was like

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holy crap that is a lot of people in one

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year because I've been doing this

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channel for four years like off and on

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it like holy crap people people like

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it's awesome it's like so fun and it

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I get I have like the nicest audience

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there's not a lot of awful comments

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considering it's YouTube and people like

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leave me these really long comments like

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launch I was six years old and my dad

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let me stay home from school and it's

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really yeah I can only well in your

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passion comes through through the videos

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and I think people appreciate that too

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especially in what you know is usually a

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field that can get stuffy at times I

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would assume where the historical aspect

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but yeah like you mentioned you know I

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heard a lot of people talking about

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where they were when this gentleman

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first landed we unfortunately lost one

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of our greatest John Glenn and you put

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together a really nice video on your own

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on your YouTube god speed John Glenn a

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unique American hero do you care to

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comment it all about John Glenn and sort

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and your research yeah John Glenn is

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such an interesting figure because I

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never I never met him I should say that

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I'm that fun but he's such an

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interesting figure because he's so

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iconic of that era and it's an era that

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people sort of hate now because it was

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you know it was a like out like I kind

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of mentioned in the video I tried to

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kind of keep it keep it

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more more kind of gentler but like it

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was the era of the white men basically

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and a lot of people were just like it's

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you know they kind of hate the Apollo

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air because all you see on the surface

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is the sea of white men like but at the

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same time you thought it was like I find

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John Glenn to be such an interesting

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character because as much as he was a

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pilot like a test pilot like all seven

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of the original mercury astronauts were

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he was the one who didn't have affairs

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and like didn't do anything untoward or

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seedy he was just like the perfect

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American of the 1950's form of like like

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beautiful like two kids and a dog and

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like went to church regularly and was

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just like the oldest of the group but

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like has this cute little baby face he's

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very good-looking just like you could

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not be more American and ass

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- John Glenn in the 1950s and like for

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him to be also a war hero who was the

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first American in space it's like yeah

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this is exactly who like America at the

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time needed to pin their hopes on for

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like beating the Soviet Union in the

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Cold War space race incarnation of the

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Cold War it's just such an everyone I

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know who's met him - sighs he's he but

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that wasn't that's not a way that we

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looked at him and like whitewashed his

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past it's not like we're ignoring things

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about him to sort of have this opinion

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that he was just such a great like

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emeriti main hero it's like no everyone

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I know is just like no he was just a

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really really great person yeah like all

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he did was serve his country it's like

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yeah you don't get people like that that

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is a rare breed I think I'm just like I

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am exactly what you see and what you see

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is just an upstanding really good person

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that's like yeah that's that's that's

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John Glenn and I think that's what

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people need to remember instead of like

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trying to be like yeah he was great but

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now we have diversity it's like yeah of

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course diversity is like the best thing

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ever

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yeah but like let's let's also look at

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this guy being like no he in his in his

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era he was he was who America needed you

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would like the perfect hero in 1959

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that's great yeah I mean it's just so

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good to hear that there there were

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people like that and he was pretty

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progressive as well so yeah you like you

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said you know from you know from the

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military to space to a senator quite a

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story to behold for sure sort of getting

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back to the history aspect of it Amy um

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you came out with a book that really

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stretched our space history muscles

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could you tell us a little bit about

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breaking the chains of gravity and how

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long it took you to write this massive

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beast I loved it I loved it I am

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learning things that you know being Who

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I am in the UFO field well you did the

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same for my book so you let me know when

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the second edition comes out but um I

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had no idea that there were spaceflight

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before NASA and that shows how ignorant

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I actually am about space history and

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exploration so um yeah tell us a little

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about the book how

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the idea was sparked to write this and

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how long did it take you you're in the

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field of space no the idea came I mean

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like I kind of said with my decision to

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you I'm ceremoniously it turned my back

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on our MIDI Mia I just like kind of I

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was just so sick of like finding all

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these amazing things in space and

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realizes that no believe me the stories

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because they're sort of kept within the

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academic world and the people who do

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have an interest in them don't really go

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outside that so like every once in a

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while you'll see an article on like

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Wired or something with some of your

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space thing but like there's not a lot

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that exists in like trade publications

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for the general public to get them

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excited and curious about things that

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you know we kind of take space for

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granted and the more I started doing

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research in my Master's and stuff I sort

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of got into this like prehistory of NASA

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psychologists thought this is so

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interesting and I'm a huge space nerd

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and I'm just finding out about this

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that's not okay

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like I'm like as in the story and I'm a

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big fan of like we should know our roots

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before we go forward because that

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ultimately helps us not repeat mistakes

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and do better things right so I just I

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really wanted to I wanted to tell the

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story of the roots of NASA because it's

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I think for our generation just because

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we didn't grow up with NASA in the same

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way that our parents and grandparents

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did right like it was established you

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and I are both shuttle babies if you

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will like spaceflight was sort you know

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it's weird to think that we've lived in

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the world where people have always been

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in space

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yeah you think about it but I thought it

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was you know for our generation

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especially like people kind of take it

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for granted and are like why are we not

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doing this yet if we can go to know why

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can't we do this like well let's

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actually look at how a recent

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spaceflight is and how hard is and that

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the fact that NASA didn't like pop out

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of nothing and just like magically go to

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the moon there's like space magic you

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know the roots were there for decades

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and you're building off this stuff so I

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wanted to write something that would be

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accessible for people who aren't giant

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space nerds like it's it's just a

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history book there's no there's a very

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few numbers in there one number that is

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a giant typo

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yeah I know I get emails once a week

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about the speed of the x-15 it's not

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eight point seven million miles per hour

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well yeah that's that's a correction for

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the next edition it's it's in with the

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publisher but ya know so I wanted to

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write this to kind of get it get this

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story out it's so inspirational it's so

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interesting for the general public so it

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was sort of born out of my master's

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thesis a little bit actually the

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original idea for the book which I'm

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sure you can understand like when you

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decide to write a book how many

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incarnations the idea goes through yeah

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yeah so the original book was like much

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much a lot like bigger and in scope and

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I am actually had this very odd thing

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happened where this editor from Norton

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liver light emailed me and was like I

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can't acquire titles but I love your

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work and I want to help you so I just

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like you know informational interview

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like we talked and I was actually I

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think the last time I was in New York

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yeah I had lunch with him I was there

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for a Writers Conference and I had lunch

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with him and he proceeded to tell me

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that my idea was too big to break it in

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half at the creation of NASA well that

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was a business like well that's the only

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place to logically do it and like make

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it two parts he's like yeah and then

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just like start with one and then do the

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other and like you're fine then he ate

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off my plate and then I never saw him

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again

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it was the greatest he's in my thank you

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it's actually because that was the most

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impactful lunch ever

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but um yeah so once I kind of broke it

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Dan broke it in half it was just like

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well that's smaller that's easier and

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then it was just like you know two years

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of researching and then I my publisher

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came to me which was nuts and I think I

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wrote the bulk of the book like the bulk

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of it probably like eight months Wow

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which is the scary part because at this

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age like yeah I signed a contract for

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two years from contract and delivery

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mm-hmm fine but then I like broke off an

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engagement and moved across the country

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by myself in that time standard so like

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that was a lot of things that was

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happening in my life and it's just like

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oh I write a book now so like literally

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are like ladies in LA and I was like

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about eight months not let's not let's

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not leave the house so at least like you

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know I hide all the bit I had bits and

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pieces done it's just a matter of like

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actually doing it

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and like making it sound good yeah so

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that's that is quite a story about how

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the book came to be that's amazing well

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Amy I mean this is a UFO podcast and I'm

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sure our listeners are getting a little

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anxious I I have to ask you what are

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your thoughts on the UFO phenomenon

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you've had to have heard some pretty

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weird stories from astronauts or members

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of you know NASA about sightings in

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space could you are there any that come

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to mind right now that you found of

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personal interest there's two that

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always come to mind when I think of UFOs

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the first and this is actually one that

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I was asked about recently so there is a

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video coming is the the transient lunar

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phenomena which was like this weird

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there's a report about it that came out

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in about 1958 it was that's looking at

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an odd light and color phenomena on the

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moon and in the 50s no when no one knew

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whether this was like a naturally

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occurring thing whether they knew the

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moon has no atmosphere so like what

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could these lights be might be aliens

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these this is like these have been

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recorded for centuries like I think this

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report goes back to like like the 1600s

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with these weird light and color flashes

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on the moon and just because this became

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such an issue for NASA when it was like

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a newborn institution that's like what

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do we do if these transient lunar

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phenomena turn out to be aliens on the

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moon that's that's one that I always

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like to use like this is pretty

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interesting it maybe that's more alien

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and not UFO and I'm sorry in my head I

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kind of put them together because we do

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it all the time okay the other my other

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favorite UFO story you know the story of

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Apollo 20 yeah yeah I feel like you and

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I may have been in the same documentary

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talking about this at one point but I

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think yeah Apollo 20 okay just for the

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record is not a thing that happens I'm

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not saying that it happened but it is

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the story that people actually

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I don't know how this makes the rounds

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in the internet with such regularity but

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apparently on Apollo 20 it was a joint

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us-soviet mission to the moon and they

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use the command service module and lunar

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modules somehow to pick an alien ship up

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off the far side of the moon that was

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first found in orbital photographs from

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I believe Apollo 15 and inside that is

541
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:52,660
an alien that they bring back to life

542
00:20:57,130 --> 00:20:55,010
that's my favorite because I don't even

543
00:20:59,409 --> 00:20:57,140
know where the roots of that story are

544
00:21:01,840 --> 00:20:59,419
how it happen yes that's like like how

545
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:01,850
does that even because there's the best

546
00:21:06,460 --> 00:21:03,530
thing about it is that there's footage

547
00:21:08,590 --> 00:21:06,470
online like who is able to film

548
00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:08,600
something with a fake mission patch and

549
00:21:13,980 --> 00:21:11,510
a weird hybrid American Soviet flag in

550
00:21:17,230 --> 00:21:13,990
what looks very much like a lunar module

551
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:17,240
and also like it looks it has the same

552
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:20,090
look as like like a 16 millimeter so

553
00:21:24,039 --> 00:21:21,770
what I'd like it looks like the old

554
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:24,049
footage it's so weird it's one of my

555
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:25,280
favorites because it's just like I don't

556
00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:26,690
I don't understand where those thumbs

557
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:29,809
from yeah those aren't very good answers

558
00:21:34,030 --> 00:21:32,000
because I don't really do a lot of UFO

559
00:21:35,740 --> 00:21:34,040
thing is I every time I talk to

560
00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:35,750
astronauts about like the strangest

561
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:37,520
thing you saw there you know they always

562
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:39,650
have the very scientific answer of what

563
00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:41,450
we saw a flashing light and then realize

564
00:21:45,580 --> 00:21:43,910
that it was like a panel that had blown

565
00:21:47,620 --> 00:21:45,590
off when we release fill in a module

566
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:47,630
whatever and it was spinning and then it

567
00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:49,280
was just catching the light as its funds

568
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:51,049
it looked like a flashing light it

569
00:21:53,890 --> 00:21:52,370
looked like it was trailing us but

570
00:21:57,730 --> 00:21:53,900
really it's just on the same trajectory

571
00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:57,740
is us no yeah we do hear that a lot and

572
00:22:02,919 --> 00:22:00,559
we need that scientific methodology to

573
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:02,929
keep things straight and separate the

574
00:22:07,299 --> 00:22:05,450
UFO phenomenon from aliens um so I think

575
00:22:09,460 --> 00:22:07,309
that's the best way to go about it um

576
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:09,470
well you brought up Amy the moon I

577
00:22:14,260 --> 00:22:11,210
wanted to talk a little about that why

578
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:14,270
why do you personally think you know

579
00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:16,880
with your historical knowledge of going

580
00:22:21,370 --> 00:22:18,980
to the moon um why haven't we been back

581
00:22:23,890 --> 00:22:21,380
there and do you think it's worth still

582
00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:23,900
exploring I'm just rubbing my fingers

583
00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:25,910
together in the emotion of money right

584
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:30,620
now money for it okay I think that's

585
00:22:34,750 --> 00:22:32,720
kind of really why we haven't come back

586
00:22:36,909 --> 00:22:34,760
to the moon you know Apollo started

587
00:22:38,740 --> 00:22:36,919
losing funding like almost immediately

588
00:22:40,659 --> 00:22:38,750
after Apollo 11 landed

589
00:22:41,890 --> 00:22:40,669
anything before funding was going down

590
00:22:44,919 --> 00:22:41,900
it was just not something that was

591
00:22:46,539 --> 00:22:44,929
viable and there's never really been

592
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:46,549
like it's just never been something that

593
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:50,330
we can really do without having a reason

594
00:22:56,830 --> 00:22:53,450
to do it like fighting another country

595
00:22:58,090 --> 00:22:56,840
because we need war type funding to make

596
00:23:01,049 --> 00:22:58,100
a program like that happen

597
00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:01,059
so unless spaceflight becomes actually

598
00:23:05,380 --> 00:23:03,100
cost-effective and we develop a system

599
00:23:08,529 --> 00:23:05,390
that actually keeps the cost down

600
00:23:10,690 --> 00:23:08,539
I can't imagine we'll have a way to go

601
00:23:11,919 --> 00:23:10,700
to the moon and have any kind of

602
00:23:13,630 --> 00:23:11,929
presence there it's just like not

603
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:13,640
something that humans are quite ready

604
00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:16,400
for I don't think well as for whether we

605
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:17,809
should go to the moon I think there's

606
00:23:22,570 --> 00:23:20,210
definitely scientific reasons to do it

607
00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:22,580
I'm I'm more on Team science than team

608
00:23:26,830 --> 00:23:24,280
inspiration when it comes to spaceflight

609
00:23:28,779 --> 00:23:26,840
I think there's definitely reasons to go

610
00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:28,789
through them it's just a question of do

611
00:23:34,779 --> 00:23:30,470
we are those reasons strong enough now

612
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:34,789
or should we maybe wait you know 50

613
00:23:37,779 --> 00:23:36,710
years 100 years until we actually have

614
00:23:40,060 --> 00:23:37,789
better technology and a better

615
00:23:43,570 --> 00:23:40,070
understanding of how to keep humans

616
00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:43,580
alive in areas like the moon where

617
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:46,130
there's no shielding from radiation to

618
00:23:50,649 --> 00:23:48,770
actually be effective workers yeah

619
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:50,659
you know that's I'm kind of on the fence

620
00:23:56,649 --> 00:23:53,330
there of like is there a reason to be

621
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:56,659
doing this stuff now versus working on

622
00:24:00,190 --> 00:23:58,400
development developing the technology

623
00:24:01,930 --> 00:24:00,200
and understanding about these different

624
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:01,940
environments more so that when they get

625
00:24:06,159 --> 00:24:04,010
humans there and we do need to get

626
00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:06,169
humans there we can do it right yeah

627
00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:08,390
exactly and I guess that's sort of where

628
00:24:13,419 --> 00:24:10,190
the whole idea of private space

629
00:24:15,490 --> 00:24:13,429
exploration comes in are you where do

630
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:15,500
you stand on that whole proponent of

631
00:24:20,890 --> 00:24:18,530
private private corporations getting

632
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:20,900
involved in the whole space new space

633
00:24:29,020 --> 00:24:25,840
race as it were yeah new space let's

634
00:24:30,250 --> 00:24:29,030
let's hashtag that well that's it I mean

635
00:24:32,169 --> 00:24:30,260
people keep referring to it it's like

636
00:24:33,490 --> 00:24:32,179
yeah you know new space versus old space

637
00:24:37,210 --> 00:24:33,500
I'm like you know it's all kind of

638
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:37,220
things but I'm punished yeah no I think

639
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:39,530
I think it's it's good to have different

640
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:41,330
innovation from different companies and

641
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:42,770
I you know the one benefit that a

642
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,510
private company has every government is

643
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:46,640
that like a private company can kind of

644
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:48,080
do it at once you can spend as much

645
00:24:51,460 --> 00:24:49,760
money as it wants it can develop what it

646
00:24:51,779 --> 00:24:51,470
wants it can kill people if it wants to

647
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:51,789
go

648
00:24:58,739 --> 00:24:56,049
huge review I mean that would obviously

649
00:25:00,539 --> 00:24:58,749
be an inquiry but like you know if Elon

650
00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:00,549
Musk wants to put people in Rockets and

651
00:25:04,889 --> 00:25:02,950
they sign up privately that you're

652
00:25:06,570 --> 00:25:04,899
taking a risk if NASA does it as we've

653
00:25:09,149 --> 00:25:06,580
seen with with the shuttle shuttle

654
00:25:11,249 --> 00:25:09,159
disasters it's it's a long process of

655
00:25:13,229 --> 00:25:11,259
inquiry and fixing or not fixing things

656
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:13,239
but yeah it's it's you know that you can

657
00:25:18,389 --> 00:25:14,769
take more risks in your private company

658
00:25:19,409 --> 00:25:18,399
my my thing with it is like how much is

659
00:25:21,419 --> 00:25:19,419
these private are these private

660
00:25:22,769 --> 00:25:21,429
companies doing it for for reasons that

661
00:25:24,769 --> 00:25:22,779
like you know Elon Musk is doing this

662
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:24,779
because he wants to go to Mars okay so

663
00:25:28,739 --> 00:25:27,129
what's the greater scheme here like

664
00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:28,749
you're you're basically doing like a

665
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:32,169
fast like the Apollo era crash program

666
00:25:36,509 --> 00:25:34,570
of we want to get to Mars now as opposed

667
00:25:38,190 --> 00:25:36,519
to well let's really understand the

668
00:25:39,719 --> 00:25:38,200
challenges and work on developing the

669
00:25:41,369 --> 00:25:39,729
things and meet maybe we don't know

670
00:25:43,739 --> 00:25:41,379
enough to go to Mars yet which is my own

671
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,749
opinion the other the other thing is

672
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:45,039
like with private companies they're

673
00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:46,690
private so they don't have to tell me

674
00:25:49,769 --> 00:25:47,590
what they're doing

675
00:25:51,450 --> 00:25:49,779
so when Elon Musk says yes I have this

676
00:25:54,029 --> 00:25:51,460
plan to send a hundred people to Mars

677
00:25:56,820 --> 00:25:54,039
and this and I will release no technical

678
00:25:59,700 --> 00:25:56,830
details or any firm mission plans like

679
00:26:00,930 --> 00:25:59,710
so why should I take this seriously if I

680
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:00,940
don't get to see what you're talking

681
00:26:04,919 --> 00:26:02,769
about ready right you know I mean so

682
00:26:07,469 --> 00:26:04,929
it's rooms like I think it's on point

683
00:26:09,509 --> 00:26:07,479
the ultimate like happy place and this

684
00:26:11,009 --> 00:26:09,519
is like you know that scene in The

685
00:26:12,450 --> 00:26:11,019
Simpsons where they're like but imagine

686
00:26:13,889 --> 00:26:12,460
a world about lawyers and everyone's

687
00:26:15,719 --> 00:26:13,899
like holding hands and singing those

688
00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:15,729
rainbows like this is my vision for

689
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:17,710
space like is that like government

690
00:26:21,060 --> 00:26:19,330
international governments and private

691
00:26:23,639 --> 00:26:21,070
contractors work together so there's no

692
00:26:25,529 --> 00:26:23,649
duplication of Technology because I

693
00:26:28,859 --> 00:26:25,539
can't help but see like the Falcon Heavy

694
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:28,869
and the insane what is it 42 engine

695
00:26:33,299 --> 00:26:31,809
behemoth and also the SLS in its heavy

696
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,309
configuration like these are all just

697
00:26:36,690 --> 00:26:35,200
heavy lift vehicles instead of

698
00:26:40,739 --> 00:26:36,700
developing three of them why don't we

699
00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:40,749
focus on one of them again because of

700
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:42,700
SpaceX I don't really know what the

701
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:44,710
benefits are over NASA you know it's

702
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:47,049
hard because you can't see it all but

703
00:26:50,389 --> 00:26:48,070
I'd love to see them all working

704
00:26:53,249 --> 00:26:50,399
together for something that's like a

705
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:53,259
unifying space program you and me but

706
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:55,090
and also and also holding hands singing

707
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:57,970
with rainbows yeah well as we've seen

708
00:27:02,340 --> 00:26:59,919
the Simpsons have gotten a lot of things

709
00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:02,350
right in the past

710
00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:08,620
a little terrifying moving on well in

711
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:10,630
terms of like exoplanets being

712
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:12,250
discovered and you know things like

713
00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:14,770
Proxima be do you believe there's any

714
00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:17,020
hope of finding life out there even

715
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:19,990
within like our own galaxy Amy are we

716
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:21,760
putting a time frame on that like hope

717
00:27:25,289 --> 00:27:23,679
of finding alien life in our lifetime

718
00:27:29,730 --> 00:27:25,299
let's say with it I'm just generally

719
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:29,740
let's say okay within our lifetime and I

720
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:31,450
won't give away either in our ages but

721
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:33,490
within our lifetime I don't know that we

722
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:36,970
would find life form of like intelligent

723
00:27:42,090 --> 00:27:38,650
life that could communicate with us I

724
00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:42,100
think it's more likely just given the

725
00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:44,860
state of Technology that we would find

726
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:47,950
like confirmed bio signatures of life

727
00:27:51,529 --> 00:27:48,610
okay

728
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:51,539
somewhere but we have no way right now

729
00:27:56,399 --> 00:27:54,159
without some like massive leap in

730
00:28:00,419 --> 00:27:56,409
technology of actually going there and

731
00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:00,429
making any kind of contact yeah I mean

732
00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:02,409
you know that's that's in the relatively

733
00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:05,590
near future that's for like what kinda

734
00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:07,030
part of that is like what kind of life

735
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:09,070
might there be I think it's I think it's

736
00:28:12,810 --> 00:28:11,049
I think there's definitely life out

737
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,820
there somewhere I don't necessarily

738
00:28:17,250 --> 00:28:14,799
think that there's life out there that

739
00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:17,260
wants to enslave humanity like all the

740
00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:19,990
science fiction movies show and I think

741
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:21,880
it's more likely that we would find a

742
00:28:25,890 --> 00:28:23,679
primitive life because also like what

743
00:28:27,870 --> 00:28:25,900
people always forget and you of course

744
00:28:29,490 --> 00:28:27,880
would not forget this is that like many

745
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:29,500
if you're looking at exoplanets you're

746
00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:31,600
also looking back in time right so if

747
00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:33,190
you have to we have to find life on that

748
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:35,620
planet in the moment where it exists

749
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:37,600
because it might be that we're seeing it

750
00:28:42,270 --> 00:28:40,210
after a mass extinction yeah right if we

751
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:42,280
might be just missing the life which

752
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:43,690
means which is why I think that like we

753
00:28:48,299 --> 00:28:45,850
could find sure evidence of past life

754
00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:48,309
but not necessarily like a thriving

755
00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:50,620
Society so yeah I think the odds of

756
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:52,630
finding just just given that we're

757
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:53,950
looking back in time we have to find

758
00:28:57,149 --> 00:28:55,120
these plants the right time in our

759
00:28:59,220 --> 00:28:57,159
history to support life I think it's

760
00:29:01,500 --> 00:28:59,230
harder to find life life like us life

761
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:01,510
but probably more likely that we'd be

762
00:29:06,029 --> 00:29:04,090
able to find like a more basic form of

763
00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:06,039
life in the near future just because I

764
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:09,100
imagine where I should say I am NOT an

765
00:29:12,660 --> 00:29:10,840
exile biologist in any way

766
00:29:15,030 --> 00:29:12,670
imagine that's probably more prevalent

767
00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:15,040
that seems very you know safe to say I

768
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:17,080
mean obviously we have to take many

769
00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:20,460
things into consideration space-time

770
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:22,840
communication you know we saw a lot of

771
00:29:28,170 --> 00:29:25,450
this and that what the new movie arrival

772
00:29:29,730 --> 00:29:28,180
you know how how much language would

773
00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:29,740
play a big part of this and like you

774
00:29:33,930 --> 00:29:32,260
said like work we're almost looking into

775
00:29:36,780 --> 00:29:33,940
the past if we worked in front of that

776
00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:36,790
life so it's it's fascinating it's

777
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:39,190
definitely something to ponder hopefully

778
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,050
within our lifetime yeah

779
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:43,360
again if the Simpsons have everything

780
00:29:53,370 --> 00:29:51,910
right hopefully we will I have so many

781
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:53,380
friends you would get along with in

782
00:29:58,860 --> 00:29:56,650
terms of being a Simpsons fan I'll have

783
00:30:01,410 --> 00:29:58,870
to get you connected with them well this

784
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:01,420
this question comes straight from your

785
00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:03,310
co-host which we'll get to in a little

786
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:06,550
bit um Jason he felt really bad he

787
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:08,670
couldn't be here today he's a busy man

788
00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:11,410
his question to you is if you could

789
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:13,390
journey through the solar system on a

790
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:15,310
kick-ass spaceship and you were

791
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:16,990
searching for extraterrestrial life

792
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:19,930
where would you go and what one person

793
00:30:24,810 --> 00:30:22,330
would you want to be with you and this

794
00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:24,820
could be anyone a scientist and Apollo

795
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:27,580
astronaut yeah how's that one for a

796
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:31,330
hypothetical yeah the destination is the

797
00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:32,050
easy part

798
00:30:38,430 --> 00:30:35,220
I would go to Titan Saturn's moon Titan

799
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:38,440
in like a like a party ship there would

800
00:30:41,850 --> 00:30:39,730
be a bar on board

801
00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:41,860
ya know Titan I think is such an

802
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:44,590
interesting place and like to be totally

803
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:45,910
honest like I'm so sick of exploring

804
00:30:50,430 --> 00:30:48,010
Mars like I want more money for missions

805
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:50,440
to places like Titan because tight is

806
00:30:55,860 --> 00:30:53,440
right the moon that has what scientists

807
00:30:57,660 --> 00:30:55,870
suspect is a very similar environment to

808
00:30:59,640 --> 00:30:57,670
primordial earth and is actually a

809
00:31:01,680 --> 00:30:59,650
really good candidate for potentially

810
00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:01,690
having if not life the right environment

811
00:31:07,710 --> 00:31:05,740
for life to start up also I really

812
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:07,720
really want to see what it looks like

813
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:10,090
with Saturn on the horizon like that's

814
00:31:13,789 --> 00:31:12,850
just that would just be amazing no I

815
00:31:15,889 --> 00:31:13,799
think top

816
00:31:18,049 --> 00:31:15,899
needing a fascinating world that we have

817
00:31:21,019 --> 00:31:18,059
not explored nearly enough and like I'm

818
00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:21,029
so curious to get like a deep deep look

819
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:23,340
there the other candidate will be Triton

820
00:31:27,739 --> 00:31:26,129
Neptune's moon because there is growing

821
00:31:30,739 --> 00:31:27,749
evidence after the New Horizons mission

822
00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:30,749
to Pluto that Pluto and Triton are

823
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:32,580
actually like bodies and they were both

824
00:31:39,229 --> 00:31:35,580
captured by Neptune one became a moon

825
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:39,239
and one became a dwarf planet if you

826
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,460
will in resonance or being in resonance

827
00:31:44,570 --> 00:31:43,200
with Neptune I would love to see if

828
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:44,580
those two things are actually very

829
00:31:49,399 --> 00:31:47,369
similar so those are the two as for the

830
00:31:51,109 --> 00:31:49,409
one person they go it I have no idea I

831
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:51,119
looked at you 70 expressions last night

832
00:31:55,639 --> 00:31:52,799
and I haven't been able to think of one

833
00:31:57,529 --> 00:31:55,649
person it's like what like I kind of

834
00:31:59,330 --> 00:31:57,539
just want a human with all the qualities

835
00:32:01,519 --> 00:31:59,340
that you need like a calming presence

836
00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:01,529
but a very intimate knowledge of The

837
00:32:06,529 --> 00:32:04,230
Simpsons but also a medical degree and

838
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:06,539
also be an mechanic and engineer so you

839
00:32:10,909 --> 00:32:08,850
can fix things when they break yeah well

840
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:10,919
and we forgive you're gonna be with this

841
00:32:14,749 --> 00:32:13,049
person for a pretty frickin long time

842
00:32:16,369 --> 00:32:14,759
and then I think of like who could I put

843
00:32:19,789 --> 00:32:16,379
up with that long and the only person I

844
00:32:22,570 --> 00:32:19,799
can think of is Pete my cat okay okay we

845
00:32:25,369 --> 00:32:22,580
put animals into space before we can do

846
00:32:28,729 --> 00:32:25,379
know cats don't like zero gravity yeah

847
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:28,739
yeah absolutely no idea what one person

848
00:32:32,629 --> 00:32:29,970
I would want to spend that much time

849
00:32:35,419 --> 00:32:32,639
with and go that far with that that's a

850
00:32:36,590 --> 00:32:35,429
but essentially you'll pretty much want

851
00:32:41,149 --> 00:32:36,600
to kill anybody

852
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:41,159
yep mission failed I guess yeah bad but

853
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:43,200
yeah poor moons they never get enough

854
00:32:49,099 --> 00:32:47,039
enough love of glad you send up the

855
00:32:51,409 --> 00:32:49,109
distant moons are the coolest bodies

856
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:51,419
yeah there have some of the neatest

857
00:32:56,899 --> 00:32:54,450
stuff going on I mean yes I don't know

858
00:32:59,119 --> 00:32:56,909
how how to do it but like if we could

859
00:33:01,129 --> 00:32:59,129
have a mission that like orbits Saturn

860
00:33:03,139 --> 00:33:01,139
and then deploys things to different

861
00:33:05,479 --> 00:33:03,149
moons and still talks to itself like

862
00:33:08,869 --> 00:33:05,489
that would be so cool yeah yeah more

863
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:08,879
money for that please more money for

864
00:33:15,379 --> 00:33:13,529
that indeed so you recently started a

865
00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:15,389
podcast am i correct you're joining us

866
00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:19,230
in the podcast of fear I I did yeah I've

867
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:21,990
done so I'm launching my own the the

868
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:23,710
vintage space podcast

869
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:25,809
because I was super creative by using

870
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:28,090
the same name for all of my things it's

871
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:31,720
a brand our brand a people like yeah no

872
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:34,720
I am I did one episode and didn't really

873
00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:37,090
it wasn't happy with it and have since

874
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:38,860
come up with a way better approach to

875
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:40,330
the podcast and I'm actually really

876
00:33:43,769 --> 00:33:41,919
excited and I'm just dragging my heels

877
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:43,779
I've actually recording it again because

878
00:33:49,230 --> 00:33:45,970
I'm still like not good at the technical

879
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:49,240
aspects of it yeah so the the podcast

880
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:51,039
and this is weird because I haven't told

881
00:33:54,779 --> 00:33:52,510
anybody that I'm doing it this way yet

882
00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:54,789
so you'll be the first I'm exclusive

883
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:56,590
yeah it's just I was just chatting with

884
00:34:01,320 --> 00:33:59,200
a couple friends of mine who are avid

885
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:01,330
podcasters the problem with me doing a

886
00:34:04,409 --> 00:34:02,529
podcast is like I don't listen to

887
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:04,419
podcasts because I'm super visual and

888
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:05,770
like if I'm just hearing something I

889
00:34:10,169 --> 00:34:08,230
won't hear it you know so it's hard for

890
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:10,179
me to think of how to do a podcast right

891
00:34:13,379 --> 00:34:11,260
and if anyone was like well you know

892
00:34:15,629 --> 00:34:13,389
serialized podcasts and really be it was

893
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:15,639
like oh my god is there a podcast that

894
00:34:21,810 --> 00:34:19,210
like does installments of the space race

895
00:34:25,169 --> 00:34:21,820
history because every mission or every

896
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:25,179
like event could be a 30-minute podcast

897
00:34:32,339 --> 00:34:28,770
right and I just like I'm gonna try that

898
00:34:34,290 --> 00:34:32,349
awesome that's that's the elevator pitch

899
00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:34,300
that's very bad but um yeah I've started

900
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:36,790
sketching out like how many how many

901
00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:39,040
episodes I could do and then just sort

902
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:40,780
of go back and like look specifically at

903
00:34:44,070 --> 00:34:42,129
other things if this thing actually does

904
00:34:45,659 --> 00:34:44,080
like gain enough traction like I don't

905
00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:45,669
even know how to think of things in like

906
00:34:50,099 --> 00:34:49,060
a sterilized way of doing seasons like I

907
00:34:52,349 --> 00:34:50,109
just that's not how my brain works

908
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:52,359
because I'm not good at planning things

909
00:34:57,060 --> 00:34:55,359
on the long long term like that but yeah

910
00:34:58,740 --> 00:34:57,070
it's just like so I'm actually gonna try

911
00:35:01,920 --> 00:34:58,750
this approach of like let's actually

912
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:01,930
just take one technology and tell that

913
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:03,970
story and see if I can do like have

914
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:05,890
characters that bleed over so that like

915
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:08,170
in half-hour installments every two

916
00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:10,210
weeks or whatever you learn a little bit

917
00:35:14,099 --> 00:35:12,070
more that you have a better a bigger

918
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:14,109
understanding of this era of history

919
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,490
that is so so boiled down in in modern

920
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:20,320
retellings it like yeah let's let's see

921
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:21,160
if that works

922
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:23,440
who knows I have no idea the podcast

923
00:35:26,370 --> 00:35:25,119
like talking about like throwing stuff

924
00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:26,380
at the wall and seeing what sticks like

925
00:35:31,620 --> 00:35:28,990
podcast I have no idea what I'm doing I

926
00:35:33,810 --> 00:35:31,630
understand stuff at the wall and hoping

927
00:35:35,490 --> 00:35:33,820
that something sick well you're throwing

928
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:35,500
something else at the wall right

929
00:35:41,130 --> 00:35:38,590
what is this thing you are doing with

930
00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:41,140
our co-host Jason McClellan this is a

931
00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:42,460
this is going to be a rogue planet

932
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:47,260
podcast I know you Jason and I have very

933
00:35:53,490 --> 00:35:49,890
similar interests in terms of music and

934
00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:53,500
obviously space so what what is this

935
00:35:57,690 --> 00:35:55,540
what is this amalgamation you two have

936
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:57,700
companies this is the greatest this is

937
00:36:02,190 --> 00:35:58,960
like this is the podcast that are

938
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:02,200
actually excited about this started

939
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:05,590
actually like as a joke in an email when

940
00:36:08,970 --> 00:36:07,210
I I think I put on Twitter that I was

941
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,980
looking at podcasts and Jason email name

942
00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:10,240
it's like if you have questions no gear

943
00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:11,980
I can help you and then we started just

944
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:13,990
like joke talking about doing a podcast

945
00:36:19,590 --> 00:36:17,620
that was all about Punk Scott beer space

946
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:19,600
and pets because these are like the five

947
00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:21,390
things that we both like love

948
00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:24,760
unconditionally and then it actually

949
00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:25,990
grew into a thing they were like we

950
00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:27,640
could actually make this happen and it

951
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:28,870
could actually be kind of Awesome

952
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:30,400
because between the two of us we know a

953
00:36:35,010 --> 00:36:33,130
lot of people in these fields and you

954
00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:35,020
know we want you or we want to just like

955
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:37,660
like chat and drink beer and just get

956
00:36:42,690 --> 00:36:40,690
nerdy about all of these things so it is

957
00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:42,700
called the punk rocker moon stomper

958
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:43,710
podcast

959
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:49,300
yes it's designed an amazing logo for it

960
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:51,040
that I can't wait to turn into patches

961
00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:53,560
and findings and and honestly like what

962
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:55,180
it is yeah yeah I mean you know Jason

963
00:37:01,260 --> 00:36:58,720
and we you know he's he's just awesome

964
00:37:02,970 --> 00:37:01,270
so basically what we do is we crack a

965
00:37:06,060 --> 00:37:02,980
beer and we talk for an hour

966
00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:06,070
yeah and it's wherever I mean we did our

967
00:37:10,110 --> 00:37:07,720
first episode and it is a very long

968
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:10,120
introduction to these five elements of

969
00:37:14,220 --> 00:37:12,850
the podcast and also ourselves so that

970
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:14,230
people get to know us that it was just

971
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:16,570
like it's so much fun to sit and hang

972
00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:18,130
out with some but someone that you have

973
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:19,720
that much in common with that you get to

974
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:21,130
just catch up with on a weekly or

975
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:22,750
bi-weekly basis and just like have a

976
00:37:26,490 --> 00:37:24,490
beer over the Internet it's like it's

977
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:26,500
the funnest thing ever and I can't wait

978
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:28,090
I can't wait to actually start releasing

979
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:30,010
it into the wild it is gonna be a rogue

980
00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:32,470
planet podcast and I'm gonna host the

981
00:37:38,370 --> 00:37:35,080
video version on my new youtube channel

982
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:38,380
that's more personal and yeah we're just

983
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:39,520
gonna kind of

984
00:37:43,710 --> 00:37:41,920
really like hope that this thing picks

985
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:43,720
up steam but it's we're both really

986
00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:45,250
really excited and I'm taking this on

987
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:47,350
yeah absolutely and you know these

988
00:37:54,510 --> 00:37:50,410
things intermingle more than we we we

989
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:54,520
think they do like we interviewed a

990
00:37:57,870 --> 00:37:56,560
gentleman who wrote a book about punk

991
00:38:00,840 --> 00:37:57,880
rocking UFOs

992
00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:00,850
so yeah it's definitely you know

993
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,740
cracking that beer just letting loose

994
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:04,480
people like that they like hearing

995
00:38:07,290 --> 00:38:06,010
people have conversations they feel like

996
00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:07,300
they're in the room and they could be a

997
00:38:10,530 --> 00:38:08,590
part of it and I think that's where your

998
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:10,540
video aspect will really come in so I'm

999
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:13,390
super excited to to hear that when it

1000
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:15,520
drops and I can't wait to come on and

1001
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:18,370
crack a Guinness or something with you

1002
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:18,940
yeah yeah

1003
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:26,050
tell you what to drink or tell you that

1004
00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:28,330
you have to drink but you are welcome to

1005
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:29,980
drink whatever you want and as much as

1006
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:32,320
you want yeah I had a beer that was like

1007
00:38:35,870 --> 00:38:34,390
9 percent oh we were like doing our

1008
00:38:38,370 --> 00:38:35,880
first episode and I was like wow this is

1009
00:38:43,590 --> 00:38:38,380
this is good this is good this is

1010
00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:43,600
happening well um Amy what's next for

1011
00:38:48,090 --> 00:38:46,030
you well are you doing any talks or

1012
00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:48,100
conventions or are you working on any

1013
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:50,680
new books we've sort of covered the

1014
00:38:59,760 --> 00:38:57,130
video aspect aside from the to podcast I

1015
00:39:02,820 --> 00:38:59,770
am working on pitching my next book

1016
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:02,830
right now it's just been you know I you

1017
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:04,210
know again you know you've written a

1018
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:06,130
book right now it's just kind of honing

1019
00:39:09,450 --> 00:39:07,690
the proposal down to like the right

1020
00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:09,460
sellable thing for my agents and then

1021
00:39:13,590 --> 00:39:12,070
and then hoping that they see what I see

1022
00:39:15,390 --> 00:39:13,600
in it and just kind of going from there

1023
00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:15,400
it's just like I just need time to work

1024
00:39:20,610 --> 00:39:18,540
on it so that's like my big next baby

1025
00:39:22,290 --> 00:39:20,620
continuing on with the YouTube thing but

1026
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,300
I'm also launching I just kind of

1027
00:39:27,150 --> 00:39:24,000
mentioned it in my second channel

1028
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,160
basically a personal kind of vlog style

1029
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:29,440
channel just to showcase that as we

1030
00:39:34,050 --> 00:39:31,210
talked earlier that nerds come in all

1031
00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:34,060
shapes and sizes and genders and

1032
00:39:38,910 --> 00:39:37,180
everything that yeah that I want to

1033
00:39:40,830 --> 00:39:38,920
start showcasing or sharing a little bit

1034
00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:40,840
of like what life is like when you are a

1035
00:39:44,580 --> 00:39:43,030
super nerd living largely on the

1036
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:44,590
internet doing all kinds of crazy things

1037
00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:47,230
who has multiple interests because for

1038
00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:49,270
everybody that says I want my daughter

1039
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:51,640
to love science when she starts wanting

1040
00:39:54,279 --> 00:39:52,640
to date you

1041
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:54,289
so I keep telling these parents like but

1042
00:39:58,299 --> 00:39:56,569
also let her do other things because you

1043
00:40:00,160 --> 00:39:58,309
need her to be well-rounded and like

1044
00:40:02,769 --> 00:40:00,170
actually love this stuff and not force

1045
00:40:04,299 --> 00:40:02,779
her into it I get a lot of questions

1046
00:40:06,009 --> 00:40:04,309
from parents and teachers it's so weird

1047
00:40:07,450 --> 00:40:06,019
and I'm like I don't have kids where do

1048
00:40:10,029 --> 00:40:07,460
I eat eight children but I can try to

1049
00:40:11,410 --> 00:40:10,039
help so it's just yeah I think it's

1050
00:40:14,319 --> 00:40:11,420
important to sort of look at the other

1051
00:40:15,819 --> 00:40:14,329
side of things and have a yeah I had no

1052
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:15,829
idea this is like the big social

1053
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:18,470
experiment of 2017 so yeah that's that's

1054
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:19,910
the next those are the next like big

1055
00:40:23,950 --> 00:40:22,130
creative things yeah that's awesome and

1056
00:40:27,279 --> 00:40:23,960
I'm sure that will be very inspirational

1057
00:40:28,839 --> 00:40:27,289
to a lot of young women out there to not

1058
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:28,849
feel like you need to follow a certain

1059
00:40:35,319 --> 00:40:31,640
path or mold that you you know sort of

1060
00:40:37,420 --> 00:40:35,329
this society is carved out for them so

1061
00:40:39,490 --> 00:40:37,430
yeah that's super exciting

1062
00:40:40,809 --> 00:40:39,500
where can we find out more about all

1063
00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:40,819
these amazing things you're gonna be

1064
00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:41,180
doing

1065
00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:44,630
you can best place to probably follow me

1066
00:40:48,339 --> 00:40:46,220
is Twitter because I tweet everything

1067
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:48,349
that's happening my handle is ast

1068
00:40:53,319 --> 00:40:51,410
vintage space and also the my main

1069
00:40:54,670 --> 00:40:53,329
youtube channel is also gonna have all

1070
00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:54,680
the announcements and stuff on it that's

1071
00:40:57,789 --> 00:40:55,849
just the big Gipp space

1072
00:41:00,220 --> 00:40:57,799
google it and you'll find it it's it's

1073
00:41:02,130 --> 00:41:00,230
nice to be up in the search rankings

1074
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:02,140
alright to give you a very long URL

1075
00:41:06,549 --> 00:41:04,730
that's fair enough and the book is

1076
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available on Amazon I would assume yeah

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I should also talk about the book for a

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year it's available on Amazon breaking

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the chains of gravity and also if if you

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do want a signed hardcover edition I

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sell them on my website which is just a

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t-shirt title com shipping times are

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slow I will warn you depending on if I

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have books in my house or not but I do

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for Christmas right now so oh you were

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my biggest inspiration for that I

1087
00:41:34,769 --> 00:41:31,430
started doing the same I totally stole

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it from you and it's cool it's cool like

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it's it's going oh it's going well yeah

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it's sort of super annoying isn't it

1091
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it's annoying in the way that like the

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Postal Service isn't really your friend

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when you have them to be but um me and I

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like I love doing it it's really nice to

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you know people will send me like oh is

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this for my daughter can you describe it

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I'm like yes this is great but it's also

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like I live with boxes of shipping

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supplies and books and like I'm

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not like I need a staff like I need an

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intern to like be my book manager right

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now does it that's that's the annoying

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part is like oh my god and you USPS like

1104
00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:10,470
hates me because of how many

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international orders they take forever

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to show yeah like failing every time I

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walk into the post office with like

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fifteen books they're like they look at

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me they're like oh it's you but

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literally they look at me and they're

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like you have to wait I'm like no it's

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the post office it's first time first

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server like you have to wait because we

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00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:26,460
don't want to we don't want to do this

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that the civil service jobs they can do

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the internationals online and they are

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so happy oh good well Amy thank you so

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much for joining us today it was an

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amazing conversation I know our

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listeners will totally dig the whole

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space aspect and it's good to know that

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you're still open to the possibilities

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of what may be out there so thanks again

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00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:53,970
for joining us yeah thank you again so

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much for having me it's been fun all

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right that's it for this week's episode

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Amy Sheraton and be sure to subscribe to

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